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Adverse effects of the 3 major NTM antibiotics.

Latest Activity: October 10, 2024
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I started Rifampin, Ethambutol, and Azithromycin 10 weeks ago, taking 3 days a week. So far have not experienced much in the way of side effects. I get a little bit of a stomach ache for short period of time on some days, and have had minor diarrhea a few times. But that has been it. Have not seen the more concerning side effects show up. I am expecting to do some blood tests in next month to check vital organs etc. I am definitely not coughing as much as I had, nor any episodes of hemoptysis.

As stated on warning label of Ethambutol, I have not had any alcohol, not sure if ok to take on "non-pill" days or not! Will be checking with Dr. to find out when we meet again.

Its still early in this long term treatment, but I am encouraged so far about my quality of life that I had such a reluctance to begin in first place.

Latest Activity: March 17, 2018
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Di,

Hello! So glad to read that you are tolerating the big”3” up to this point. The fact that you are coughing less, getting relief is huge.

Re: alcohol- the drugs will still be in your system even on your “ off med” days; hence , patients are advised not to consume alcohol beverages.

I love vino and beer occasionally; I endulged in Frie( alcohol free) vino and O’ Doules beer during that time. It was not as enjoyable, but I was able to get through this challenging time and get to the other side of feeling so much better.

I wish you the best at this time.

Latest Activity: March 19, 2018
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I was treated with the same cocktail for my NTM and tolerated all three very well. I loaded up on probiotics, timing the intake at opposite times of the day and had no side effects at all. I always do a lot of research on everything I take before it enters my mouth no matter who prescribes what so I am well acquainted with all possible side effects and what to expect.

As this was some years ago, my memory says I took them daily and could expect to take these for 18 to 24 months. I was out of the country when I ran out of my supply after about 11 months of treatment and as I was feeling very, very good, did not restart after returning home. So far.....so good.....knock on wood.

Do your research and be sure to add billions of probiotics to your system to reintroduce/keep all the good bacteria the antibiotics kill. They are vital to a healthy gut!

Latest Activity: June 5, 2018
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Hello ! I am new here & just found your post RE treatment. How long did you actually take the Big 3 ? Did you clear and test negative at any point ?Are you still testing negative ? How long after diagnosis did you start treatment ? Do you do airway clearance regularly ?

Latest Activity: October 10, 2024
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Quizzie,

Great name!:). Yes, probiotics are so important while taking the big 3 cocktail. So glad to read that you are doing well.

Latest Activity: June 6, 2018
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I've been on the three for 4 years. Never had a stomach problem and I'm a 125 pound 58 year old female.

Latest Activity: June 14, 2018
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Barbfit,

Four years is a long time. What is the treatment plan? When will you have a drug holiday

Latest Activity: June 14, 2018
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Drug holiday? Like that phrase! How often between treatments does such a holiday occur and usually how long are the holidays?

Latest Activity: June 14, 2018
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Hi Gretchen - My situation is a bit unusual because my initial doctor (an ID) who I had for 3 years did not treat me correctly. He took CT scans but not a single sputum sample. Initially, I went on the 3 drugs after MAC diagnosis for 18 months. Feeling good, he took me off and within months I was feeling poorly again. After a few years of the "on", "off" cycle and doing research on my own, I had a feeling I wasn't being treated well. Last year I finally went up to UNC Chapel Hill, NC (luckily I was only 2 hours away) which has a bronchiectasis/MAI specialty Center and saw my saviour, Dr. Peader Noone. Turns out, I never got rid of the MAC. In his Irish accent he said, "we're going to get rid of this stubborn boog-e'" So in addition to the 3 meds, I received 4 months of Amikacin antibiotic taken intravenously daily through a PICC line. At 4 months no MAC was found. I continue to take the Amakacin through a nebulizer daily. I have had clear gram stains since then. If I am clear after 12 months (which would be September,) I will FINALLY come off of ALL Medications. Of course, MAC could return but I'll take it! Moral: If you don't feel comfortable with your doctor, go somewhere else!

Latest Activity: June 15, 2018
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Barbfit

I also go to UNC at Chapel Hill to see Dr. Noone. He has been wonderful. So refreshing to have a doctor you can talk to.

I have Bronchiectasis and MAC. Diagnosed first with Bronchiectasis in 2016, MAC 2018. I am currently on the "big 3" treatment. Arithomizine, Rifampin, and Ethambutol every M, W, F. I am in my 8th week of treatment. I wanted to ask you if you still experienced fatique while on antibotic treatment? If so, did it subside any during treatment? Did you ever have aches or pain in your chest or back area?

My last ct scan in August showed a pocket of infection in my rt lung. This was before treatment started in October.

I was hoping that these symptoms would subside now that I am on a three antibiotic plan.


Latest Activity: November 28, 2018
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Hi DK - I would say, overall, when I was on medication, I felt good especially during those first couple of years. I can't remember how long it took for me to feel better, but when I went off the medication the symptoms would come back (because I still had the MAC!) I still have bouts (like on a day where I was stressed or running around) of achiness and fatigue, but nothing a couple ibuprofen and a quick nap didn't take care of. However, if I got a cold, it would last a long time and I would end up having to take yet another antibiotic to clear up the bronchitis I would ultimately get. Those symptoms, I believe are more from my bronchiectasis worsening. YES, I did (and still do) experience pain in my chest and back, but it comes and goes.. When I'm sick, it's much worse and definitely worse when I had the MAC. Remember that even if you get rid of the MAC, you still have the remaining Bronchiectasis. The illness drives you crazy because you can be fine one day and the next you feel like crap and then the next day your fine again. As for your CT Scan, if by "infection" you mean the cavitary pockets and lesions it is slow process for it to get better so don't expect miracles by your next CT scan. By the way, I was MAC free in August for a year so I am now off all antibiotics. YEY!! Now I just hope it continues! I don't know if this was helpful. Let me know if you have any more questions, but you are in good hands with Dr. Noone.

Latest Activity: November 29, 2018
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Hello ! Did you clear your lung pocket cavity with treatment ? I am trying to decide about taking the Big 3, no symptoms, no sputum production. My latest CT showed a potential cavity. My doc is concerned, wants me to start meds & mentioned the more difficult path if it spreads- Would make any potential surgery not really an option as it's less focused to one area. 

Latest Activity: October 10, 2024
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Thank you so much for your reply.

You are so right. One day I feel pretty good then the next day I feel breathless and tired. 9 weeks in now with the big three! So hoping that I will begin to feel better soon. This disease has certainly changed my life. Some times I feel so defeated. Just keep telling myself that it could be a lot worse.

I go back to Dr. Noone in January. Little concerned because I will need to give a sputum sample and most of my Bronchiectasis and MAC have been dry. At present I have no cough and no mucus. I do nebulize ( 7% ) but do not bring anything up.

Thank you again. So nice to talk with someone who understands.

Latest Activity: December 2, 2018
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I tolerated for 18 months but towards the end I had stomach upset and difficulty taking them. But the real problem because of its long-term effects is the hearing loss I suffer as a consequence which has made it difficult to be socially active as a hearing aid is not affordable.

Latest Activity: January 11, 2019
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Zpak also can cause hearing loss. I do have complete loss in right ear. When my pulmo found that out he put me on zpak 3 days a week. I also had hearing aid that kept constantly chirping went back to hearing clinic 2 times still didn't get it right so its in a box. i have talked to several ppl that have hearing aids none have liked them and none are cheap.

Latest Activity: March 26, 2019
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I took the Big 3 for about 2.5 years starting in 2010. I was off meds until December 2018. Two weeks into the Big 3, I started having flu like symptoms on medications days (MWF). We discovered that it was caused by Rifampin. I am allergic to Cephalosporins and Levoquin. I also started having ear ringing from the Azithromycin. My hearing test showed very slight damage to the high pitched hair cells, which explains the ringing. I will be starting Arikayce in the next few days. I understand that has a side effect of ototoxicity as well.

Latest Activity: January 11, 2019
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Hello! I personally do not know anyone who has hearing issues due to arikayce . Below is a list of side effects https://www.rxlist.com/arikayce-side-effects-drug-center.htm

I hope that members who have used arikayce respond. All the very best!

Please keep us posted

Latest Activity: January 12, 2019
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I was on Arikayce for two months but taken off by my doctor because of side effects. No known hearing issues but only on for a short time. Terrible fatigue, breathing problems plus slightly irregular heatbeat and ct scan showed some alergic reaction to Arikayce. I cannot take Ethambutol but OK with Rifamin and Azythromycin. Doctor looking for third drug. I have an appointment with him tomorrow.

Latest Activity: March 26, 2019
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Ronda,
Hello! Welcome to the group. Thank you for sharing your side effects with the group; we are all learning from one another. Please let us know what drug your Dr.decides to substitute for rifampin. We hope that you can learn other relevant information from this site and can support you need throughout this challenging time. Katie

Latest Activity: March 26, 2019

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