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Hi - found this site today and hope i can find a few answers - I have been on a quest to find the best place to live in the USA that is less likely to cause illness to people with bronchiectasis / NTM - also I would like to let the medical community realize that once you give a patient a diagnosis. of bronchiectasis the conversation should include what this means in the future for other illnesses that having bronc. makes you more apt to contract - i was officially dig in 2005 with bronch. after years of symptoms and now have been on meds for a year for NTM / MAI - I have been treated for puesdomonas also - I have been told that where I live is full of NTM but no one has any answers as to a better place - I found a little info on a medicare map of state with high NTM - I live on the east coast of Fl. and was told by my Dr. that this is about the worst place - any info would be great - hope this site is helpful for this community as we need some much needed answers about what life is like beyond diagnosis - thanks to all - norma

Latest Activity: May 10, 2016
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Hi Norma,

There is also a lot of NTM found along the West coast, and there are many clusters throughout the country. The fact is, because it's an environmental pathogen, it's impossible to avoid it geographically, and the specific strain depends in part on location - different areas have different concentrations of different strains. There has been some basic research on this that is just now being presented.

The link that Delia posted above will provide helpful tips to help avoid exposure.

Latest Activity: May 10, 2016
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thanks amy - where I live is high on the list of heavy NTM - I have spent many hours trying to do research on a better place to live and was preparing to go on an extended trip to explore possible places but each time a date was set some health issue came up and in the end I just talked with 4 Drs, they gave 4 different answers but ended with the fact that where ever I live I would catch what is there....I already have had or have 3 pathogens from where I live so going someplace else will just open the way for something else - so for now I am staying put and trying to retrofit my life and environment . Thanks again for your insight - Norma

Latest Activity: May 11, 2016
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Hi Norma,

Welcome to the community! Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope that other community members will share their experiences as well. As I understand it, NTMs are commonly found in the environment, but there are things you can do to lessen exposure and prevent infections. Below is a link to a page on NTM Info & Research's website which explains some measures to help reduce exposure to NTM.

http://www.ntminfo.org/faq/other-questions/prevention

Hope this helps!

-Delia

Latest Activity: May 10, 2016
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@Delia thanks, I printed out the insight info not only for myself but for family members. This is something else that needs to be addressed as many people may hear you cough or know you have something but do not want to acknowledge the scope of your illness. The ever popular expression "You don't look sick" can really hurt.....Thanks for letting me vent - Norma

Latest Activity: May 10, 2016
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@bunnyhop NTM Info also distributes copies of the Insight pamphlet - for free. Here's more info: http://www.ntminfo.org/patients/insight-patient-brochure

Latest Activity: May 10, 2016
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Hi Norma! Welcome to this most resourceful and supportive of communities! I hope you find what you are looking for-we are happy you found it!

Latest Activity: May 10, 2016
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@bunnyhop Great! The Insight brochure is definitely a valuable resource! Have you checked out the blog post linked below? I think it would be of interest to you.

https://www.bronchiectasisandntminitiative.org/BronchandNTM360social/Community-Discussions/Blog/Article/14/Key-points-from-NYU-NTM-Patient-Education-Seminar-QOL-Segment-presented-by-Bets

Best,
Delia

Latest Activity: May 10, 2016
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@Delia I am watching the seminars - great info - thank you for the link - norma

Latest Activity: May 11, 2016
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@Gretchen - Thanks

Latest Activity: May 11, 2016
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Hi Bunnyhop,

I know you asked this question long ago, but others probably have the same question. I was first diagnosed in 2012. At that time, doctors were big on the geographic issues with NTM. They kept telling me humid locations, like coastal areas: Florida, California, and Hawaii were hotbeds of NTM. I lived in Hawaii at the time I was diagnosed. So, to get away from the threat, I moved to Nevada, the dryest place in the entire country.... and proceeded to catch another NTM. But not just any NTM, this is a little known strain called Simiae, harder to treat than most any other. I spent two years on drugs and did not fully clear it. Doctors told me "Simiae is rampant in the desert Southwest". Now I am about to get treated for it again! I have come to the conclusion that I am going to get NTM no matter where I am at. My advice is no not move specifically to avoid NTM, but do reasonable things to minimize your risk of getting it.

Latest Activity: January 20, 2022
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John,

I agree! Preventative measures are of upmost importance. Some patients get recurring infections, regardless of the location.

Latest Activity: January 20, 2022
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My pulmonologist said "High and Dry" is theoretically best for all the reasons noted above, but also said that he doesn't specifically advise persons to turn their lives upside down b/c of all the stories of persons changing EVERYTHING to decrease risk, then end up getting another strain anyway. Very frustrating. I asked about the high prevalence of NTM in Arizona which seemed puzzling since it's so dry. He said a patient moved there for the dry air, but moved away after a year b/c she hated having to dust her house so often. Good for her b/c turns out that the dust/dirt blowing around is a source of NTM. Also, "you can't live in Arizona without living around water". He said that the misters used outside of restaurants etc to keep people cool are a terrible source of NTM. I asked my pulmonologist about the Pacific Northwest since my husband's family is from there -- he said it was better for NTM, but way worse for mold. And finally, the High and Dry City of Denver is not coincidentally a "relatively" safer place to live -- there used to be many tuberculosis sanitoriums there b/c people found out that TB doesn't thrive in that climate, much like NTM. I'm happily living in Northwest Arkansas, but can't get rid of the MAC for which I've taken Azith/Rif/Etham x 10 months -- just started Arikayce 3 weeks ago and about to add the vest twice daily.

Latest Activity: April 4, 2022
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KatP,

Hello! Unfortunately, there is no perfect place to avoid NTM , other respiratory issues such as mold. I did a lot of research when I was first diagnosed years ago- the docs said the same thing as you recently heard. Additionally, uprooting and less social support can add additional stressors for some patients.
I hope that the arikayce begins to assist you in the very near future. I understand how frustrating, stressful this experience can be. Try to stay positive somehow despite the current challenges. We are here to support you on the journey. Katie

Latest Activity: April 4, 2022
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