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Good morning to all - I am very interested in learning about where people are living at time of diagnosis of MYCOBACTERIA infection and what type of NTM - This ? stems from trying to decide a possible better location to live - I myself live in Sebastian, Fl. and was told by my Dr. that NTM is very high in this area, also through internet articles (Medicare tracking) I have read the same about Fl. - Thanks for any input anyone would like to share

Norma

Latest Activity: December 12, 2016
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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Interesting question; look forward to seeing people's responses!

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Hi Norma! I'm in the Milwaukee area of Wisconsin and have M. Avium Intracellulare aka avium complex. It's funny that you asked this because I just saw a map the other day that listed high- and low-NTM areas. I think Wisconsin is supposed to be on the low end, so go figure.

I got a lot of information on where mycobacteria are found from the patient presentation by Dr. Kamelhar here:

http://www.med.nyu.edu/medicine/pulmonary/2015-pat...

Have you seen it? It's really interesting.

Latest Activity: June 28, 2016
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I live in Milwaukee . at first my doctor thought I had gotten Bronchiectasis in Arizona while on vacation. But I think I got it in an office where I worked in downtown Milwaukee.

Latest Activity: August 30, 2016
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@Margo I have since learned that Milwaukee has an elevated risk for NTM. Something to do with our big old puddle to the East do you think? :)

Latest Activity: November 23, 2016
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Hi Merry - I watched the whole series and did learn tons from it a while back - I did just watch again the link you posted, it was a good refresher - thanks for sharing where you are from at diagnosis - I also have MAI and have been on the big 3 for 13 months - ID says Aug. is our target date to stop treatment, I am so looking forward to that day but am a bit apprehensive about not being on meds. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get to it - Have a great day - Norma

Latest Activity: June 29, 2016
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Bunnyhop,


There is a helpful map with showing prevalence of ntm throughout the US:


https://www.ntmfacts.com/Prevalence#interactivemap


Cheers,

Connie


Latest Activity: July 20, 2016
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Thanks Connie, i had not seen the map and yes it is really helpful - I have become complacent in trying to get my life together to make a move from where I am living - Dealing with a bought of depression with all my ills and the difficulties in moving - I will now put a copy of this map on my fridge to maybe motivate me again

Thanks

Nomra

Latest Activity: July 20, 2016
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I live in Georgia, I have my entire life except a few years in Tennessee, but I already had bronchiectasis and NTM at that point. Looking at the map that has been posted, I guess it's a pretty common area for it. The doctors still can't say exactly the cause of my disease, but I think it started when I choked on milk when I was 11. When I researched the particular bacteria that showed up on my bronchoscopy (mycobacterium gordonae), it said it was common in unpasteurized milk and although the milk was pasteurized, I know sometimes bacteria can make it past the pasteurization process. So, that's my theory about how it happened.

Latest Activity: August 15, 2016
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hi rachel - thanks for responding - i am thinking about heading to north west texas, but it is so hard to leave the security blanket of my doctors and family, but i feel like i am putting my life on the line staying in an area with known high rates of ntm - any info from ntm'ers will surely help with my thoughts of a better place to be - norma

Latest Activity: August 16, 2016
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so many ways to look at this. we already have it and, if we live in high incidence areas, we have doctors who are familiar with it. on the other hand, can we improve our situation by moving to a different area (which seems to be away from water)? I have dealt with ibs for many years and am now working to improve that. as other have said, our guts are our immune system and I, for one, truly believe that.
to address the question, I was diagnosed in Oregon from a ct done during one of my chemos. my doc at ohsu seems to think I still wouldn't be aware that I have mac/bronchiectasis without that ct (no symptoms). so how many more of us are there out there?!

Latest Activity: November 10, 2016
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I suspect there are many, many more of us out there with silent NTM, or symptoms that are being missed.

Latest Activity: November 11, 2016
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bunnyhop, there is something called Valley Fever that is endemic in the Southwest. Look up a map of the incidence area. You could be trading one bug for another.

Latest Activity: December 9, 2016
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hi lindalee
yes i have a map printed out with all the mycosis and one with ntm - this leaves a very small part of the us that may be free of these bugs, but heaven only knows what else is out there waiting - lol - i had my checkup with my id doctor this week and "i am free of ntm mai at this time, yeah!!! that i must say was a long 2 years of illness and treatments - my id dr reminded me and stressed the importance of lung clearance - in oct. i had pneumonia and nov. bronchitis - i am looking forward to a no ills dec. - did most of my christmas shopping on line to avoid the masses - back to the subject i am still wanting to move but oh it is such a hard decision, i live in one of the worst places for ntm's but have access to a very good group of doctors within minutes from my home - so many decisions to make......thanks for listening to my ramble - norma

Latest Activity: December 9, 2016
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OK - a safe place - I got it! Northern North Dakota

Latest Activity: December 10, 2016
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What wonderful news that you are doing so much better! Have a great Christmas.

Latest Activity: December 10, 2016
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@bunnyhop Norma! Congrats on reaching NTM-free status! Enjoy your antibiotic-free holidays! :)

Latest Activity: December 11, 2016
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thanks merry

Latest Activity: December 12, 2016
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@LindaLee
thanks LindaLee

Latest Activity: December 12, 2016
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Hi Norma -

I live about 1 hour south of you in Stuart, FL. I was diagnosed with NTM and bronchiectasis while I was living here about 15 years ago. This does seem to be a very prevalent diagnosis in our area, and only getting worse according to the ID doctors and pulmonologists with whom I speak. I would LOVE to move out of this heat and humidity; but, unfortunately, my husband's work requires us to be here :-( Do you attend the support group up in that area?

Latest Activity: August 15, 2016
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hi palmer - no i have never gone to a support group - have you been, and if so do you find them comforting and helpful? i do not know how i feel about going, i have become a bit more reluctant these days about going out and about and sometimes just can't seem to make myself do much of anything - do you have have active ntm now? - i am hoping i can stop the meds by the end of aug as i have tested neg for 12 months now - thanks for responding - norma

Latest Activity: August 15, 2016
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Hi Norma - Yes. As I mentioned, I run a support group for patients w/ a diagnosis of NTM. The regular group members do find it helpful - as we share information on dealing with side effects of medications, cleaning up our home environment to decrease our symptoms, utilizing our support systems when we're feeling poorly, etc. Sometimes it's helpful just knowing that there are others out there going through the same things we are, you know? I have tested positive for NTM consistently for 15+ years, unfortunately. The antibiotics have not proved helpful - I took different ones for extensive periods of time with no "cure". As you have tested negative for so long, I am hopeful you can stop the meds soon as well!


Latest Activity: August 17, 2016
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Hi Norma,

I lived in Tampa for 20 years. I've lived in Cleveland for 30 years and was diagnosed here with MAC.

Latest Activity: November 21, 2016
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Another thing is I've traveled out west.

And all my hobbies are risky too: Gardening, camping, hiking. I've been in hot tubs, steam rooms, and caves. But, I didn't know MAC then. I'm a little more careful now.

Latest Activity: November 21, 2016
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Hi Clevegrrl! I keep thinking back 2 years when I spent two days hanging out in an indoor water park with friends. Can't help but wonder if that was my ground zero for exposure, or if it's just my shower head. Like you, I try to be a little more careful.

Latest Activity: November 23, 2016
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How are you 'more careful'? I guess what I'm asking is- now that we have it, what are we more careful of-- More of 'it' or the secondary, oportunistic crap like pneumonia, etc. Does everyone get vaccines?

Latest Activity: December 10, 2016
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@kate Hi Kate,
I definitely stay away from indoor water parks and hot tubs. I also avoid grocery produce sections that have sprayers to mist the veggies. I should probably stop using my kitchen sprayer and clean the shower hear regularly too. Not that any of that is guaranteed to stop, or even significantly reduce exposure to NTM, but it can't hurt. Even though while on the antibiotics I suppose it's not as important as when I (hopefully) reach the point of being NTM-free.

And, yes, I definitely try to avoid the opportunistic crap! :) Flu shot. Avoid sick people. Don't touch germy door handles and wash, wash, wash my hands. But that's more about preventing my COPD exacerbations, than avoiding NTM.

Latest Activity: December 11, 2016
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@kate Hi Kate and everyone reading this....... Things I have done to keep this nightmare at bay (not sure it really helps but I do it anyway) -
some things took a bit of time like convincing my husband to turn the water heater to 130, replacing our shower head with an all metal one, replacing the carbon filter in the kitchen water filter every 30 days - keeping the window open in the shower and the fan running and the door opened, also, which may seem gross to some, but now i do what my family has called bird baths daily and shower every 3 or 4 days - my life has been as a gardener and that has been very hard for me to give up - so we have removed many of my garden plots and when I do rarely go out to piddle it is with a mask and gloves, which is pretty hard here in hot florida - I learned in the beginning of this illness that ntm is abundant in peat moss which I amended my soil with every year and I think that may be where I aquired ntm am but than again I recently found out that living with a bird may have been the cause (the bird has found a new home) or as the Id Dr first told me "if you have ever chocked while singing in the shower, you got it" - What ever the cause it has drasticly changed how I go through life - I stay at home as much as possible to avoid catching what ever is lurking in the outside world, and am excepting that this is my new life - its hard and some days I have a "Pitty poor me party" but than I think, For this day I am free of ntm and that is a wonderful reason to get up each day - I hope everyones journey with this and any chronic disease ends sooner than later and that in leaning to cope we find strength we never new we had - Merry Christmas and Blessings to all

Norma

Latest Activity: December 12, 2016
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Central Oklahoma

Latest Activity: December 8, 2016
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Hi Norma,

I live in Los Angeles area of California. I was recently diagnosed with Mycobacterial Avium Complex (Intracellularae) after a CT scan and bronchoscopy ordered due to several coughing blood incidents, which began in April of this year. I have multiple lung nodues, some shortness of breath, and don't feel quite like myself in terms of energy and mood. Bronchiectasis was also seen on CT.

From April to November, Pulmonologist insisted this was all an inflammatory response that we may never find the answer for. Fortunately, one more coughing blood episode in November prompted another opinion from Pulmonology and the bronchoscopy was done, which revealed MAC.

Pulmonologist and Infectious Disease Dr. say treatment is not warranted because I will simply become reinfected due to the bronchiectasis. I feel uneasy about their expertise, for one reason I am a textbook sample of population with this condition--tall, white, slim female in mid sixties. Yet, this possibility of diagnosis was never even alluded to; therefore, this was a total shock.

Thanks for reading. I am so interested in support groups in my area. I have found one in Westwood that I anxiously await the January meeting.

Latest Activity: December 12, 2016
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Hi - so sorry to hear that you now have had to become one of us - i also had ntm mai - have had bronchiectasis diagnosed since 2005 - i am now free of ntm mai after 16 months of treatment -during that time i also had to be treated for pseudomonas with a picc line for 1 month (iv antibiotic) - and from all my research and all my long talks with my 3 drs the ntm will most likely come back or i will be reinfected but for now i am enjoying this time of no ntm.......do you have symptoms , low grade fevers, sweats, flu like symptoms etc if so i cannot imagine not being treated just because it might come back - by the time i found the correct group of drs. and my husband ask what would happen if i do not get treatment the answer from my pumo dr was " she will die and it will not be a pleasant death" not to scare you, i did have very severe symptoms by than.....so if you are not showing signs i have heard from others that many drs.do not treat until than - the bronchiectasis part is just a never ending challenge to keep your lungs as clear as possible so as not to have a breeding ground for every germ inhaled - i do saline nebulizer each day, and a lot of chest clapping and hanging at different angles over a big exercise ball or off the bed which is quite a challenge at 65 years - lol - anyway i hope you are without symptoms at this time. God bless you in this journey and Merry Christmas to you and all........Norma

Latest Activity: December 12, 2016
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National Jewish determined I had the infection for about 13 years which would have put me in Alabama. I was running fevers at night and they could not figure out why back in 2002. I had MAC and the ONLY way I'm rid of it now was a lung lobectomy .

Latest Activity: January 30, 2017
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I was living in the San Francisco Bay area when diagnosed with bronchiectasis and MAC. I had just returned from a 3-week trip to Panama and Costa Rica, with pneumonia. During the trip we spent an afternoon in some hot springs. But I spent the ages 7-16 in steamy Alabama. I don't know how long MAC can live in the lungs without causing observable problems.

Latest Activity: January 30, 2017
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